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> In the first world we hide all of that from sight

There's no hiding. The cars are much cleaner with lower emissions. We have industrial pollution laws so auto shops have to safely dispose of waste. We don't leave burnt out cars on the roadside. You can add chaos to anything to make that thing look bad.

Also I hope you see the irony in your comment starting with

> I've been driving around Africa for almost three years now

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I don't think that's really "ironic," and I don't just mean as a pedantic "what is the definition of irony" thing. The easiest way to see the problems with, say, airline travel is to travel by airlines. I don't know about "Africa" (and, what part of Africa -- last I heard, Africa is a pretty big place...), but in most places in the U.S., like it or not, you would very likely not be able to make a living without a personal vehicle.

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