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Sounds like you don't understand Docker or containerisation in general

> Still have to decide on a single OS to reduce maintenance problems.

No you don't, you can run various distros in docker containers. We're using a mix of Debian (to run legacy services developed to run on old Debian LAMP servers) and Alpine (for our sexy new microservices) at my current job.

> Could just have installed all the services (which are all available as packages) and handled the configuration files

Then you would have a system dependent on the volatile state you configured by hand, meaning the system configuration is not declarative or reproducible.

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> No you don't, you can run various distros in docker containers. We're using a mix...

I think you are missing the point. For each distro base you introduce via docker you must track and update the security releases. Standardizing on one base distro absolutely reduces the ongoing maintenance work.

> Then you would have a system dependent on the volatile state you configured by hand, meaning the system configuration is not declarative or reproducible.

If you're using Ansible as the author already was, you essentially have this already. I can do a one command deploy to cloud servers, dedicated servers and colo boxes with just Ansible. Docker gets you a slightly more guaranteed environment and an additional layer of abstraction (which has its own set of pros and cons), but that's about it.

Slightly more guaranteed is something of an understatement; if you specify base images with specific hashes and pin package versions, you can get quite close to reproducible builds of the environment.

In support of your argument; Look for example at the Dockerfile for the official Golang container. They pin exact sha256 hashes for each architecture, and the source release in case you're on an un-binary-released architecture.

Pin specific versions of your packages, coupled with caching and you're sitting pretty.

Yes, but you still can't guarantee anything about the host the docker container has to run on, so you're still impacted by host configuration and therefore still need to provide a good base environment for running your containers. This is fairly simple with most providers, but in such a case, using Ansible or similar to deploy directly to the host has similar results.

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