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PHP is not that bad. I used Laravel to build out a PHP based web-app , it was a breeze to build - great developer experience - Eg: Netbeans/Eclipse Syntax editors are easy to use, composer was as easy as rails was. Most of my work was on the JS part though (React/WebVR). Tests, Code Coverage, Deployment to AWS, everything was smooth . This coming from a polyglot dev who built apps with Scala,Python, Java and Ruby

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I've used PHP (pre 7) at $JOB. It's not bad for hacking a project together. In fact, it's kind of ideal. (Though I would personally pick Python.)

It is bad when working on a business-grade product with more than a dozen engineers. Bizarre language choices and an intrinsic tendency towards non-encapsulation seems to make even more spaghetti code than you'd find in Ruby, Python, Java, etc.

> even more spaghetti code than you'd find in Ruby, Python, Java, etc.

From working on numerous large Java projects, I can say with real-world experience that the logical equivalent to spaghetti code is very common with Java. The difference is where the spaghetti is -- in Java, it tends to be spaghetti inheritance and encapsulation.

Nice to see more of those "real world" words that confirms that everybody can do clusterfucks (aka spaghetti code) in any language, given the proper time and lazyness ;P

This polyglot agrees. I actually like PHP for web-related stuff.

Everyone may commence the throwing of tomatoes now.

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