> I never claimed this.

No, the person I first replied to did. Then you jumped in and defended his position with your "yes and no" comment.

> I don’t think we’re really gonna make any progress here so I’ll leave it at that.

I agree. I always appreciate your friendliness and thoughtfulness, but I've never gotten you or anyone else on the Rust team to budge an inch on the problems with Rust. (which is a shame, because it's close to being a great language...)