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For me the worst of it is that a lot of the nice features are only available bundled with leather seats.

I will never buy a car with leather seats. I get sweaty and sticky when I sit on them.

Why can't I get a car with the features I want and nice cool breathable cloth seats?

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> I will never buy a car with leather seats

Autogefühl [1] is a great YouTube channel for finding out if a new car is available with non-leather seats.

They also made an interesting video a few days ago [2] saying the leather industry is trying to pay YouTuber's to recommend leather seats in their car reviews.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/user/autogefuehl

[2] https://youtu.be/nP_CvLlaFlI

There's a surplus of dead cows floating around. Gotta do something with those hides, what better than make it a 'premium' product in the auto/furniture industry.

I'm a fan of cloth or vinyl myself.

Seriously. I have gone so far as to get junkyard seats from a 'lesser' trim to upgrade the leather seats in used cars. When new they are okay, but seem to last 4-6 years before looking hopelessly worn thanks to the cheap quality used even in luxury cars nowdays. Gone are the days of full-grain that patina'ed instead of disintergrating.

I agree, too hot in the summer, too cold in the winter.

Funny thing is...in the past the only leather seats were for the driver (servants) and cloth was for the rich passengers.

Kinda like how lobster is now "fancy" food.

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