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> These people from my India are forced to spend their lives in the U.S. on the H-1B visa.

They’re choosing to spend their lives in the US on an H-1B; they’re not being forced to do that.

Sorry, my kid was born here. This is her home. This is all she has ever known for the last 10 years. I'm being 'forced' to be here because of her.

I am not arguing with the rest of your post, but people do move around. The fact that your daughter did not see the rest of the world for 10 years does not mean she cannot thrive there. Kids are adaptable (and adults, too). Moving when one is 50 is much harder than when one is 10. My 2c.

I have kids around the age of ten and moved countries. It's very, very hard for them.

SO you are saying that it's ok for an American citizen to be forced to relocate because their parents couldn't be given a permanent visa after 17 years? Sure my daughter might be able to thrive but why?

I am not saying any of this, I am just responding to your point which I understood as "I have 10 yo daughter who has not seen the rest of the world, thus I cannot relocate".

That’s a family choice for her to leave the US or not. That there might be one obvious dominant choice does not change the fact that it’s a choice. That choice you face today is influenced by a choice the parents made a couple decades ago. All still choices.

My kids might be forced to move if I got a job in another city or or if one of our parents fell ill if my wife and I divorced or any other number of reasons, including simply deciding to move someplace else.

It’s a sucky situation that you want and can’t get a green card. I think you share that same situation with 10s or 100s of thousands of others.

If your kid is being born in the US, then isn't it a completely different situation than [3] in the gp post?

By birth the kid is a citizen at age 18. In [3] the kid is born before moving to the US, that's what makes the situation even more difficult.

By birth the kid is an American Citizen via jus-solis automatically. At age 18 she or he can sponsor GC parents.

I take the libertarian non-aggression principle-based point of view on many things, especially immigration. Basically, there's a group of people (the government), that's threatening violence on me and my family because of where I was born. This is my home. The constant threat of violence that's associated with temporary statuses like the H-1B really really suck. Yes, I chose to make this my home. You have no right to threaten violence on me and my family, when I've done absolutely nothing morally wrong. C.f. https://www.zeroaggressionproject.org/

I also take the libertarian “people should understand and make the best choices for themselves and those that they’re responsible for and own the outcome thereof” point of view.

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