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Say FSD comes online or NOA is enabled for city streets. A driver without their attention on the road might not notice the mistake, and a dedicated attacker could navigate the car wherever they wanted and do malicious things (attack the car, harm the passengers, etc).

Sure, it's not a big problem now, but it could be a problem when the Tesla self-driving fleet comes online and it drives you to a back alleyway to get mugged and/or killed.

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A driver might also trust their phone's instructions with the same consequences. We know people often trust their GPS over road signs.

Yep. Its been done to death by security theatre "researchers", there's even an xkcd on it: https://xkcd.com/1958/

All that sounds pretty implausible. Sure, it's all technically possible, but it's a more complicated way of attacking a target.

For one, the attacker would have to know in advance that you'll a) be actively navigating at the time, and (b) what your programmed route is (they have to know what to spoof).

Then, they'll need to get their radio gear together, wait for you to come near, enable the spoofing contraption, hope you don't notice that the car just made an error and pulled into a dark alley instead of 42nd Street, and ambush you.

Not gonna happen for a simple mugging. If you're a specific target, then sure, but your days are probably already numbered.

We have a whole ecosystem of ride sharing apps that IMO are even more ripe for nefarious activities. If your Uber or Lyft driver wanted to hurt you, they very well could. This is such a low likelihood risk that it's barely work talking about.

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