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Comment by jermaustin1 | Hacker News Reader

http://archive.is/fCr8o in case you get the register box like I did

Also reformatted at https://outline.com/7NYFsJ

Outline is wholly inferior to the Internet Archive [1]?

Outline is a private site run by unknown people with unknown motivations. Its privacy policy [2] (a) names no actual person or responsible entity, (b) permits business transfers (implying it's a for-profit entity) and (c) permits changes at Outline's sole discretion.

The Internet Archive, on the other hand, is a nonprofit run by known, reputable people.

[1] https://archive.org

[2] https://outline.com/privacy.html

I don't have an opinion here, but note that the site archive.is has no connection with the Internet Archive (archive.org), and is a private site, not a nonprofit. In fact it used to be blacklisted on Wikipedia at one point, though not since 2016.

(I can't remember the details of why, but it appears to be because some bot was adding links to archive.is on Wikipedia. Discussions about this ban:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment... (2016)

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment... (2014)

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment... (2013)

— there sure is a lot of discussion on Wikipedia. And the article about the site does not mention who it's run by: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today)

heretrix3 does not process Javascript. archive.is is not the same as Internet Archive.

http://web.archive.org/web/20190614190638/http://ftalphavill...

For text-only users, here is a version of the article that can be viewed without Javascript. Use Reader Mode if viewing with a CSS-enabled browser.

https://amp.ft.com/content/abd7ba0b-40ef-3876-857c-cd5d49ec5...

Charts:

https://d1e00ek4ebabms.cloudfront.net/production/2f20e7af-d9...

https://d1e00ek4ebabms.cloudfront.net/production/270ded67-d3...

Even with Javascript disabled, FT still tries to track users. From the URL submitted to HN:

                <!-- Add fallback if browsers don't cut the mustard -->
                <div class="o-tracking o--if-no-js" data-o-component="o-tracking">
                    <div style="background:url('https://spoor-api.ft.com/px.gif?data=%7B%22category%22%3A%22page%22%2C%20%22action%22%3A%22view%22%2C%20%22system%22%3A%7B%22apiKey%22%3A%22qUb9maKfKBtpRsdp0p2J7uWxRpGJEP%22%2C%22source%22%3A%22o-tracking%22%2C%22version%22%3A%221.0.0%22%7D%2C%22context%22%3A%7B%22product%22%3A%22next%22%2C%22app%22%3A%22alphaville%22%2C%22content%22%3A%7B%22asset_type%22%3A%22page%22%7D%7D%7D');"></div>
                </div>

Can you be more specific? What's your worry. I have never seen outline before and am fairly happy with what it appears to be doing (strip articles off of rubbish autoplay videos/unrelated images/links to other articles I am not interested in). Did you analyze what they are collecting/have evidence they alter the cleaned text?

That may be true but they're not really competing for archiving. As an end-user, I prefer an easy-to-read format, and outline is superior in that regard.

>>As an end-user, I prefer an easy-to-read format, and outline is superior in that regard.

Quite possibly an alternative/new fundraising channel for the Internet Archive.

This seems fantastic! I feel old and grumpy when I get angry at all the rubbish news website intersperse articles with. This seems a great solution.

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