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Every experience I've had with "no meat, no meal" has also been associated with a heavy dose but "I'm a man". YMMV

On the other hand most such people I have met have been women.

Perhaps because vegans and vegetarians are substantially more likely to be thin and, well, less traditionally manly, both in appearance and in values. It's a different set of cultural values and it isn't invalid just because it differs from yours.

Having a meal with no meat doesn't make one vegan/vegetarian.

> vegans and vegetarians are substantially more likely to be thin and, well, less traditionally manly, both in appearance and in values

I can point you to many fat vegans, and I've heard this 'need meat' BS from guys who were literally 135 lbs, soaking wet, so.... exactly this kind of attitude that 'meat makes you manly'.

Who said that I disagreed with those values, that is a poor assumption on your part.

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