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and, in addition, red flag laws are not lacking due process... a judge rules on them after presenting arguments from a close party to the person. i don't believe there are any red flag laws that allow just anyone to bring proceedings but i could be wrong.

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A closed hearing from only a single party is not due process.

Then, the subject of the order must fight (at great expense) to regain their rights, which is a de facto presumption of guilt.

No hearing. No charges. No grand jury. No due process.

Due process might be a 30-day order to confiscate guns. If they can't get a grand jury indictment or involuntary commitment to a mental institution in those 30 days, the gun owner gets their guns back automatically and can't be subject to another red flag for 10 years.

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