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Looks like the camera is their main selling proposition.

For me, the camera is the reason why I do not consider buying an iPhone. Because it sticks out on the back.

I don't know .. for me it's impossible to imagine using a phone that does not have a flat back.

Of all the reasons not to buy this this one seems a bit silly to me. How is this such a big problem? I have an older iPhone where the camera sticks out as well and I don't even realize it. It has zero effect on day to day use. And if it does cause problems just get a case?

Apple users are finicky and love aesthetics. That's one of Apple's/Ive (before he left) major selling points was simple beauty. A lump on the back is not beautiful, simple, clean or elegant.

And yet way more iPhones with camera bumps have been sold than ones without. Life moves on. In the real world almost everyone uses a case and that negates any camera bump. People will make fun of it for a day or two online, but it just doesn't matter.

I hate cases but Apple is making this less and less tenable over time. Not just the camera bump but also the lower quality glass they use on the screen that easily scratches now. I used to never have a problem up until about the iPhone 7

This is a huge generalization. Close to half of Americans have iPhones, and most because you know, it has iMessage and their friends have iMessage, or you know, because iPhones are vastly more secure and have vastly better support than their competitors, or because they're meant to be simple/easy to use, etc.

To say half of Americans are finicky and love aesthetics because there's no other reason anyone would buy one is a bit of a stretch.

(I'm probably buying an iPhone this year for the first time ever, and I don't really care how it looks, or how good it's photos are, and I'm definitely putting a case on it.)

It is usually offet by the phone cover. It is actually quite clever: SINCE the cover needs to have a hole anyway for the camera, use that hole to sneak a bigger lens. All the while ensuring the hole is facing the camera, since without protrusion the hole may not be exactly in front.

My thinking is that the reason why they don't care about the camera sticking out is that people usually have covers on their phones that level this problem out.

iPhone SE continues to be the best iPhone. Best size, flat camera.

Specs are falling behind but I'm hoping to get another few years before I have to replace it.

Camera bump bothers me less on the phones than it does on the iPad because even a thin case flattens it out. But the iPad's camera bump is the only reason I have a thick case on the back of that. It's either at a desk or in my bag, I'm not going to drop it.

EDIT: I should add that I don't drop my phone because it's small enough that my fingers can actually grip around it. But my asshole of a cat knocked it off the nightstand a couple days ago and cracked the corner of the case, so a properly sized phone isn't a 100% solution to avoiding phone damage. Buying a $1000 phone and not having a case on it is nuts.

If you wear even the thinnest case/skin on your phone, the camera won't be protruding at all. The office apple leather skin on Xs Max makes the phone de facto flat on the back.

Which was the last iPhone to not have a protruding lens?

iPhone 6 and 7 have protruding lenses and they are getting old.

If you have a case, it doesn’t matter. If you don’t have a case it would be annoying.

Why don't they make the battery thicker so the back is flat?

It should be called iCamera.

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