I'm not saying it has to be any good, but if the CCP can force the unwashed masses into their home grown solutions, I don't see why the EU can't as well.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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Actually you might be right: it's really Germany and France pulling the strings here.
Must be anti EU, no other notions/stances or thoughts on complex issues could be possible.
You are alienating yourself from any reasonable discussion by making such extraordinary and baseless claims that are of no merit but are meant to elicit an emotional response
Arguments like that work in echo chambers but once you step into a discussion that is in good faith you will notice that it is counter productive and doesn't lead to anything useful
The real emotional response is how often the EU has to hit up the giants for cash to appease their population, for nothing seemingly changing between the next time they decide to crack open the piggy bank and the headlines hit the tape. Do we even know how all the funds that were received from past fines were allocated exactly (line items)? Or is that just some black box people are supposed to feel good about because it game from the bad guy?
If people are taking offense to talking about things like this really shuts down their ability to think and discuss things… setting aside the fact that I don't even live in the US or the EU… well good luck to them…
I’ve seen and heard the EU demonised as “communist” by those on the right at the same time as it’s demonised as “neoliberal” by those on the left.
I’ve seen people criticise the EU for having too much power and to little, and sometimes it’s the same person saying both things.
I’ve given up on someone when I had a conversation with them that went:
Them: “Leaving will be easy because they will give us a good deal.”
Me: “No.”
Them: “That proves we should leave!”