Rob Pike has definitely used a debugger: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1941206
Preferring logging statements is one thing, never having used a debugger is another.
Preferring logging statements is one thing, never having used a debugger is another.
He said explicitly, he used a debugger.
He came to understand the value of having a proper mental model of your code, but the comment I replied to said they had never used a debugger.
My comment was about the difference between knowing how to problem solve without a debugger, and straight up never having used it
There's nothing wrong with having more tools in your toolbox
Except it doesn't say that.
They're saying it themselves, "yeah technically once I used it when I was figuring out how for loops work".
I wouldn't say I've ever written a Brainfuck program even though once I messed around with a hello world on an online interpreter
Leave it to people here to say a comment doesn't say literally the exact words it says
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The spirit of multiple replies, not just mine is debuggers are an option you should at least be familiar with before tossing aside, even if you do end up not needing them
> I believe Rob Pike and Ken T are firmly in the 'add prints' and think camp rather than use a debugger so you're in good company.
And that comment doesn't make any mention of Rob Pike never having used a debugger.
None of our comments exist in a vacuum.
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Person A says: I never used a debugger
Person B replies: You're in company with Rob Pike on that
I reply to Person A and B: Yeah but even Rob Pike uses debuggers
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The fact I have to spell this out is appalling.
It's a preference not an absolutism.
Person A the word _never_, the definition of absolutism.
You're literally making my point, a preference towards not using debugger not a limitation, an absolutist approach of never having used one professionally could be.
It's not like I said "OMG go use one right now or your career will fail" either before you latch onto that too. I said even those guys with a preference away from them, have used them professionally
Didn't think I'd be spelling out 1st grade reading comprehension on HN but here we are.
Why this sudden increase who think turning off their critical thinking skills to go "gotcha" because you didn't write out your comment like a thesis is something positive?