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You can cash out on the first day -- you're making assumptions without trying the app. What you're saying is false.

Edit: Also regarding the reviews on a new app it's called marketing you should look into it. What you do is, you pay money and then people hear about your app and go download it. People do it when they launch apps so they can get off to a good start in the store.

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>Edit: Also regarding the reviews on a new app it's called marketing you should look into it. What you do is, you pay money and then people hear about your app and go download it.

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#bus...

"If we find that you have attempted to manipulate reviews, inflate your chart rankings with paid, incentivized, filtered, or fake feedback, or engage with third-party services to do so on your behalf, we will take steps to preserve the integrity of the App Store, which may include expelling you from the Developer Program."

Re-read the comment more carefully - "it's called marketing you should look into it" means you spend money to promote the app so it gets downloaded, ("and then people hear about your app and go download it"), and potentially reviewed by those users. Nowhere does it state that they paid money for any reviews.

And doing marketing is not a violation of any agreements, including the Apple one you pointlessly quoted.

Lets quote a bit more

"Also regarding the reviews on a new app it's called marketing you should look into it. "

Which was a reply to weird 5 star reviews. And no, posting arguably false good reviews on your product as id you were a random user is not marketting.

sebastien_b got my point -- we paid for advertisement and that resulted in reviews. Why is that hard to believe?

You're correct we did not buy reviews, what I meant is that we paid for very targeted marketing on day 1. We did not buy reviews EVER.

From the Apple app store link, people are giving glowing 5-star reviews that are titled "Earn Crypto for playing games", "Playing = making $$$", and "Epic btc".

From the same link, the app description says "Most users earn an amount that is only worth a fraction of one cent (USD)."

Pray tell, where is your targeted marketing finding people who get excited enough to write gushing 5-star reviews over being paid "a fraction of one cent (USD)"? On the first couple of days after release, no less.

Users who already played on our android app. We sent out messages to all our Android users and some of them use both platforms have and iPad or use an Android phone for work iPhone for personal. They jumped straight in we had hundreds of downloads.

You "paid for very targeted marketing on day 1" to "Users who already played on our android app", to quote your own posts, to get the reviews we see on the Apple app store?

Your statements are difficult to parse into any kind of coherent defense.

We did both. I was being asked about specific reviews and where I think they came from.

Which one is it? "BE ADVISED: It takes a long time to earn enough Loyalty Points to cash out for a meaningful amount of Bitcoin" or "You can cash out on the first day"?

"meaningful amount" -- the app rewards users in a very small amount we're very clear about that. There's no contradiction there.

You can withdraw even a fraction of a penny on the first day we're not hiding anything. Our users know this.

Huh, so there are actual people out there that claims "you can make money on your first day!" and rate apps 5 stars because you can make a fraction of a cent.

I am sorry but I will disagree with your definition of marketing. If you are creating fake reviews that is just lying, not marketting

Edit: one other point on this. A lot of people are curious about Bitcoin and have never owned any. This is why they are happy. Imagine if there was this futuristic currency you heard about on the news and then someone said to you "You want to try it out I'll send you a small amount right now." That's basically what we do. We tell people they won't get rich from our app in the description very clearly, but they get to try Bitcoin for the first time and understand what it is. We're a gateway. We help them setup their first Bitcoin account, etc.

Real users made those reviews. You're twisting my words. Marketing is how you get users in the app on the first day. We did launch day advertising. It's normal.

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