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You’re naive if you think they WONT try to screw Bernie again

Please take this stuff to some other site?

There are commenters here with firsthand knowledge of how this stuff works --- we even had a commenter yesterday who apparently got the IDP RFP for this application, and turned it down. If your only background in this subject is supporting a particular candidate and reading a conspiracy piece by Matt Stoller, maybe you should ask questions more than make statements.

Thanks for the heads-up, here's a good thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22241404

from Matt Karp on twitter:

"Sanders leads the Iowa popular vote, but an unprecedented 40+hr delay lets another candidate, who leads only by a metric so arcane experts can barely explain it, to claim “victory” & media spotlight"

Are you telling me this is acceptable?

I'm telling you that when there are people on these threads that actually have firsthand knowledge of the subject, and all you've got are citations to Twitter and Matt Stoller, you should ask more questions and make fewer sweeping statements.

Thankfully, this got flagged off the front page, and there's little point in continuing to argue it.

How does that poster have first hand knowledge of what’s going on here? He doesn’t know the inner workings.

New info came out that all 177 precincts have reported since yesterday, yet they keep showing the 65-72% that makes it so Pete is winning.

If it turns out Bernie actually won, there’s definitely shady stuff going on

Look: I don't trust any of your premises, and you're obviously sold on them and disinclined to trust any of mine. This isn't a productive conversation. You asked me a direct question: "Are you telling me this is acceptable?". My answer is "NaN". "Parse error". "Homer withdrawing into the hedge". I'm not inclined to have a partisan political argument on HN, and you shouldn't be either.

There are significantly fewer people voting in the Iowa democratic caucus than who live within 10 blocks up or down from me in NYC. Does it matter who got 50 more votes than another candidate? The idea that this tiny number of voters who apparently demand that each candidate personally bake them breakfast determines the fate of our nation is the unacceptable. Have one primary in every state the same day and end this farce.

Big claims require big evidence.

It’s dangerous to embrace the worst case scenario like corruption with open arms and requiring little evidence. People are doing it all the time now and it’s how the trolls win.

umm, it's pretty obvious if you dig into it just a little bit, and don't just rely on mainstream news.

start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Commi...

Huh? Sanders did really well.

If there's a conspiracy, it's not a particularly effective one.

Look at how they are making it look like Pete is the winner so far. This is what stays in people's minds. Later we will find out Bernie won, but the effect won't be as strong. It's like when a newspaper makes a correction, most people don't see it.

This is 100% what's going on.

That's a different problem -- it's the politics as sport/entertainment model that 24x7 "news" outlets need to survive.

Pete's camp has fanned the flames on that and he's been identified as the more interesting candidate, with lots of drama. My guess is that it won't last. A similar thing happened with the GOP in 2016. You had a collection of boring candidates in a never ending campaign. Trump's erratic nature made him a novelty that attracted attention.

IMO, if we are stuck with these stupid news channels, we need a new distraction... a kid stuck in a well, another OJ, whatever. Years of constant attention on inane politics is too much of a grind.

People invent conspiracies to explain things they don't like and don't understand. The facts, and the effectiveness of the invented conspiracy, are irrelevant.

And that’s an example of misleading representations fueling FUD in this discussion. Edit-what you pointed out is the misrepresentation, I mean.

Like the majority of the US? The vast majority of the country does not support him or his ideas.

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