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It doesn't exclude medicaid, that's a federal program. These are the programs it excludes:

> Medi-Cal program, the County Medical Services Program, the CalFresh program, the CalWORKs program, or Unemployment Insurance

I'm not entirely sure why, though.

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https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/medi-cal

> Medi-Cal is California's Medicaid program.

Because the ACA basically allows states to opt-out of providing medicaid, Medicaid has separate agencies for every state.

Good to know thank you.

My read on the exclusions is that UBI as a form of welfare solves an issue all our other welfare programs have: attempting to apply credits to very specific costs instead of eliminating loads of administrative overhead and terrible paperwork by just giving people money to spend on what they actually need. cash instead of a giant coupon book which doesnt cover edgecases.

So I could understand if they want to try to replace existing welfare programs with UBI and then ratchet up the UBI amount until its better than the old programs (and more flexible).

But as-is, yeah, this doesnt help some of the ppl who need it most

the question is, does the bill make an exclusionary period, I agree that UBI is more cost effective than food stamps to provision, but medicaid isnt the same thing.

Probably because those benefits already have a value higher than the UBI.

Private insurance doesnt cost $12000/year, so I doubt medical does.

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