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> I'm French, and we've been lucky so far, but I expect chaos when it's going to start. The government has long lost all political legitimity here, and people absolutely distrust them, so I don't think they will not peacefully comply to government attempt to limit the propagation.

Lot of French follows the rules. They will complain (a lot!) about and break them here or there but I expect most real French to mostly follow official orders.

In the other hand, I will totally bet on the fact that the kind people that loot trains after accident or shops after World Cup victory and attack both firefighters and policemen on a daily basis will do the same if there are confinement measures.

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"real French" "the kind [of] people that loot trains" As littlestymaar points out, this sounds an awful lot like dog-whistling.

Is he wrong though?

Yeah he is. Police have been clashing with Yellow Vest protesters for months. Plenty of 'real French' people there.

Are the yellow vests looting?

I'm not sure if it's just my imagination, but your comment, and especially the “real French” part makes me uneasy.

You aren't implying anything racist are you?

BTW I way less worried about thugs than about antivax mums and other fakemeds enthusiasts believing about conspiracy theory involving “big pharma”.

What's he supposed to do? He went out of his way to put it in the polite way for you. Unless you want to go into complete incomprehensibility, it's a "rock and a hard place" situation.

Personally, I'd prefer such comments not to be made in a euphemistic way and just speak plainly. If you have concerns (valid or not) with immigrants not following the native culture and social norms then say that.

Which method do you think is less likely to result in flags / bans on message boards these days?

Well, looking at this sub-thread, I've just watched you keep your cool while pasabagi throws insults at you. So I would hope their behaviour would be more likely to result in bans.

It looks like even putting it nicely did not save tasogare's comment from our most brave and wonderful moderator.

Many of mine were also flagged, despite me being extremely polite.

Yeah, but that goes against the rules. In civilized conversation, your only choice is to use incomprehensible euphemisms. He did a really great job - there is no kind of dog-whistle or outright strange language ("the urban crowd"). Perhaps he could have wrote 'normal french', but that's honestly a minor gripe.

You really have no choice but to phrase yourself in a way that's only recognizable to the in-crowd. Even here, with the polite expression, he is catching flak.

Personally, I don't discuss politics in real life anymore. Risks are too great. Just the Internet, where on some forums (not this one), you can be honest about what you think.

He's supposed to think the same way as them, of course.

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