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American trolls are having a field day - thus you are getting downvoted. Europeans ought to understand that the US has stopped being a reliable friend as of this pandemic. They dragged us in their wars then we were left to deal with the consequences, now they are willing to let us die. Not even Putin’s russia is that vile. Disgusting country the US it is.

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I don't think downvotes are happening because "trolls". They're happening because you're engaging in attacks against people instead of ideas.

There are people here having meaningful conversation on both sides, then there are people such as you who are simply spitting venom.

You may be worried by the current events going on, but please remember that everybody here - even those you disagree with - are human beings.

the only ones spitting venom are trump and his trolls. suck up and get used to being a pariah country.

We've banned this account for repeatedly spreading flamewar on HN. Could you please stop creating accounts to break the site guidelines with?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

As a German living in the US I think I can see it from both sides. I totally agree that the current US administration does a ton of stupid things but before complaining too much the Europeans should beef up their defense so they can stand on their own feet.

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