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The majority of Gmail users aren't paying users either, nor are they paying for a business account. For the free / non-business accounts, yes, by all means, put in an arbitrary limit. But that's actually pretty low for a business - what if they have > 10k employees, much less external contacts?

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As far as I know, for business using google apps, if you have 10k employees you don't need to have 10k contacts, I think there is some kind of ldap integration.

Edit: See http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answ... I don't think user profiles (that would be what is used for employees inside an organization) and shared contacts have a 10k limitation, only the user personal contacts have it.

Domain contacts (fed by a GAL sync in addition to domain-level groups created via cpanel) are not counted toward the limit.

Any company with that many employees is not going to be using Gmail in the first place.

Many schools use gmail and have well over 10k students. Northeastern for example uses gmail and has over 15000 undergrads.

I wish my school would use Gmail. Then we might be able to actually do things with our email :\

I agree. My school (UMass Boston) went with Windows Live for students. Usually, I would commend outsourcing this sort of thing (especially at the crossroads of government and academia), but now I can get a list of every student's email by just clicking address book. It's a joke. Staff/faculty email is managed locally with Exchange 2003.

Why do you say that? We have about 2-3k and use Google Apps and it's a great fit. Just curious what you think would make it not a good fit if/when we start to approach 10k?

You mean like Google?

you clearly live under a rock.

And you clearly need lessons in civility. It just never occurred to me that a company of > 10K employees would use it. I had never really thought that out.

civility, the new HN buzzword

so maybe you should have kept your uninformed comment to yourself? http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/customers/index.html

Someone not doing their homework doesn't give you a license to be a jerk.

um, this is the internet..yes it does. additionally, you were clearly digging at gmail/google as an enterprise email solution...so that's ok, but digging at you for digging at them isn't? since when is being a hypocrite civil? also, does your mommy still tuck you in at night?

I've only made one comment in this thread, and it didn't contain any of those things.

my bad dude, i thought you were the guy who made the original comment.

For someone who founded a website relating to google apps, this would have been a great opportunity to explain using your experience.

Instead you decide to be a jerk.

if you read the article, i did explain the probable reason for this limitation, under my real name in the comments. i choose when i want to share what information where, and i stand by my statements in this thread. some jerk tried to belittle google apps as an enterprise solution, only to cry when i called him out, saying he lives under a rock. not a big deal..except to all the pansies on hacker news, apparently. i'm not here for yours or anyone's approval..i just read the news..and apparently, i am a troll. go figure. if you want my assistance on google apps, you can find me on the help forums, answering google apps administrators' questions about google apps, in my free time.

HN seems like a place to make a good impression given what your company offers.

why is that? my business model doesn't include a strategy to win over HN readers with my comments. secondly, i'm not interested in joining y combinator, nor am i here to network. i read the news here and occasionally comment on something related to google apps, but not nearly to the extent that i do so other places, where my input has far greater value. i have already stated that i do not come here seeking approval. commenting on a link to an article on a website that aggregates links to other websites is not really a great use of my time (i happen to be on the tail end of a business trip sitting in my hotel room after a long week of work, so i have some downtime and this little conversation has provided me with a little entertainment this evening). the person whom i said clearly lives under a rock made a stupid and baseless comment meant to dig at google apps, as i stated above. this isn't exactly in the spirit of HN, yet when i call him out on his obvious bias, i get scolded for being a "jerk". sorry if this seems off to me, i am clearly in the minority here. i understand that now. in any case, i still stand by every single word i have written in this thread. and furthermore, the guy who did make the original comment is a liar. google uses google apps,...anyone who knows anything about google knows that (if you know of the existence of HN, you also know about google). last time i checked, google had over 20k employees, again, a common fact amongst the tech community. so i was being polite when i said he lived under a rock (insinuating he was uninformed), rather than calling him a troll or a liar.

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