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There is no vilification about China. China is by far the biggest non-existential threat to individual liberty in the world today.

Great firewall of China. No Freedom of Speech or Religion. Ethnic Cleansing Camps. Militarizing the South China Sea. Massive corporate espionage operations. Claiming Taiwan is a breakaway island.

War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength

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Yeah their strategy is to grow so large that they can just call the shots. I would be a ton of "western" politicians and business leaders are in their pockets too. Instead of a head on conflict they are going to slowly absorb the enemy. This is one area that I think Trump was right in, and the Dems (and neo-cons) seemed to be mostly in their pockets. I don't fully understand what Obama's China plan was.

> I don't fully understand what Obama's China plan was.

Built a strong United Front comprises of countries around China with the US at the top, especially the IP monopoly. While it takes a long time it will subliminally erode China's competitiveness. Quite similar to the plan to erode USSR's economy without a hot war between NATO and Warsaw's pact.

That's what I assumed. Was the TPP that, or was there more to come? And if so, why was Hillary against it?

Trumps plan looks better on the surface but I think it is bigly flawed. To try to take them head on but not actually doing much. And he really hasn't even tried to crank them with the tarrifs.

Hillary was against it, I believe because it was issue du jour. If she had been elected instead, pretty sure TPP would have been rebranded but passed nonetheless.

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