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Comment by FillardMillmore | Hacker News Reader

What's the real value in paying more for this compared to getting a new MacBook Air?

The big thing is thermal design. In the new MBA, a moderate load spins up the fans really loud, whereas in the MBPs, it takes a pegged CPU/GPU to even turn the fans on.

Honorable mention: better screen in terms of colors and brightness. Probably a faster SSD. More TB3 ports.

I'd love to see this tested with the new MBP. My 2015 13" MBP behaves as you describe, you pretty much never hear the fan unless you are pegging the CPU. But on my 2018 13" MBP the slightest load will get the fan going and it's terrible.

> whereas in the MBPs, it takes a pegged CPU/GPU to even turn the fans on.

This hasn't been true since the 2015 models, the USB-C era will turn fans on at the drop of a hat.

I'm wondering the same. My wife has an i5, 16GB, 256GB air showing up today. At the same price of the base 13 pro, I think the air is the better buy.

I don't understand why they still sell anything with < 16GB ram in the base config.

This and "why is it DDR3 and therefore why is it a Gen8 CPU?" and "why is the storage so bad?" (256GB base is doubled now but still laughable) and "why cant you just drop the useless TouchBar or at least offer that option?" and maybe also "why do we have 1" bezels in 2020?"

"with standard storage starting at 256GB all the way up to 1TB"

This has to be a joke right?

Better cooling.

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