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It uses Mullvad, and is the same price as Mullvad. I am assuming Mozilla gets a cut. When my current Mullvad subscription expires, I will switch over.

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It's less flexible than Mullvad. This new service is Wireguard-only, and as far as I can tell, requires you to use their custom app.

Mullvad additionally supports OpenVPN and other protocols, and is client-agnostic.

> Wireguard-only

That's great - less features and options are a plus for vpn services.

> requires you to use their custom app.

Sounds odd, if it's just using wireguard.

Might be opinionated to support a high quality user experience.

Guard rails can be good depending on your audience.

I second this. My family uses ProtonVPN and their own app is so clean and simple that even my mother can use it.

They support OpenVPN for when that's needed.

I’ve been speedtesting a few VPN networks, and the biggest surprise has been how fast Mullvad + Wireguard are. I need to try NordLynx (NordVPN’s flavor of Wireguard) for more of an apples-to-apples comparison, but at least on the speed metric, it looks like Mozilla chose a good partner.

Making deeper data exploration possible is a work in progress, but you can see what I have so far here: https://vpnwire.co

How close is Mullvad to your max bandwidth? In other words how much loss of bandwidth do you see?

Max bandwidth is about 7 Gbps

Is Mullvad the only provider you are using with WireGuard?

Yep, the rest connect with OpenVPN at the moment

Indeed. Can someone explain why it's not available outside of the US, though? I don't see the logic behind that.

So they can test/ramp up infrastructure rather than open the service up to 8 billion potential customers, and not upset existing customer base.

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