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The whole world has watched on as crowds of leftists have looted, attacked property, chanted death threats, beaten and even killed people for a month straight. The same ideology captured a part of a city, set up an "autonomous zone" with its own police force who themselves shot and killed a kid recently.

And yet the Atlantic, and recently the BBC, want us to worry about some fringe group who've collectively done nothing (good or bad). Going from disappointment that the right didn't get involved whatsoever in the last month, to attempting to meme a conservative boogeyman into reality.

>The Boogaloo: when does a meme become a terrorist movement?

>Please become a terrorist movement, you guys, we and our ideological partners have significant egg our faces and it's limiting our candidate's election chances.

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"the Atlantic, and recently the BBC, want us to worry about some fringe group who've collectively done nothing (good or bad)"

Not quite.

"On May 29, two federal security officers guarding a courthouse in Oakland, California, were ambushed by machine-gun fire as elsewhere in the city demonstrators marched peacefully to protest the killing of George Floyd. One of the guards, David Patrick Underwood, died as a result of the attack, and the other was wounded. For days, conservative news broadcasters pinned the blame on “antifa,” the loosely affiliated group of anti-fascist anarchists known to attack property and far-right demonstrators at protests. But the alleged culprit, apprehended a week later, turned out to be a 32-year-old Air Force sergeant named Steven Carrillo, the head of a squadron called the Phoenix Ravens, which guards military installations from terrorist attacks.

"According to prosecutors, Carrillo and an accomplice, 30-year-old Robert A. Justus Jr., were part of the “boogaloo” movement, a patchwork of right-leaning anti-government libertarians, Second Amendment advocates, and gun enthusiasts all preparing for another American civil war."[1]

[1] - https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/07/ameri...

If a highly polarized comment such is this is willing to group everybody involved in protests into the 'left', then perhaps accept my anecdotal story. I have a few close friends in the 'boogaloo' movement and I honestly believe they might be one energy drink away from killing someone. They don't really have their own ideology, but are driven by highly polarizing comments they read online.

Sounds like you should make the authorities aware of your concerns, if you haven't already.

The first three paragraphs of the linked article talk about an attack on two federal security officers in Oakland and the pipe bombs that were used against sheriff's deputies attempting to arrest the suspect - a suspect who "had scrawled boog, along with various boogaloo slogans, in his own blood on the hood of a car"

This is possibly one of the first things they've done, but I'd hardly characterize that as doing nothing bad

>This is possibly one of the first things they've done

Well, unless it was orchestrated by the movement itself or one of its "leaders", one could make the age-old argument that it was just a couple of nutjobs who happened to subscribe or meet on the same Facebook group or wherever.

In any "movement" there will always be a number of complete nutjobs, as we well know.

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