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competition is good, it's better than piling all the money in one place.

Is it really competition when nobody is trying?

Surely there's evidence they're both trying?

Europe is trying to build a glorified cargo box. SpaceX is trying to build a starship.

I’d be more enthusiastic if we had 2 attempts at a spaceship.

I am tired of spacex fanboys that cant tell the difference between a scientific mission for research and a commercial operation

> "And this satellite that Airbus will build - I like to call it 'the first interplanetary cargo ship', because that's what it will be doing. It's designed to carry cargo between Mars and Earth,"

It has nothing to do with fanboy or not. I’m sure there are tons of challenges involved in making this happen, but I just don’t think a cargo satellite is fundamentally very exciting.

Having a human in orbit of mars would make the whole process of retrieving rock samples orders of magnitude easier.

> SpaceX is trying to build a starship

No.

No? I agree that so far it has been mostly exploding cylinders, but that doesn’t really change what they’re attempting no?

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