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Really wish all linux systems had it installed out of the box.

vi/vim is difficult for newbies. And the crowd that uses vi/vim will know how to install their editor of choice while the newbie doesn't necessarily

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What systems don't come with nano these days?

CentOS/RHEL didn’t ship with it forever (at least to 7), I don’t know if that changed with 8 but it was one of the reasons I learned enough vi to be dangerous, as I had to debug a bunch of weird networking stuff on VM guests that were CentOS 5.5.

You might be happy to know that Fedora recently changed Nano to the default editor, which means it will likely land in RHEL as the default eventually.

I beleive Fedora 33 is defaulting to nano, so based on that so is RHEL

Some of the lighter distros designed for SBCs for example. Don't recall the exact one where I ran into this issue...openwrt I think

Not a disaster, but I don't personally have those arcane vi keyboard shortcuts memorized so even a small tweak to the config is unnecessarily painful

Yeah, openwrt doesn't have it, it only has busybox vi built in. Docker containers also often don't. But for most normal distributions it seems to be included these days.

>Docker containers also often don't

ah yes. That explains why my mind was so fuzzy & I couldn't place what specific distro I encountered this on.

It's not included with a default Void installation, either. It must be a charitable move to encourage greater use of Vim ;)

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