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Has the op posted the Icelandic version to get it here as a new post and to make a point?

Look, I’m saddened by the layoffs too. And I’m very sad the dev tools and servo teams teams in particular have been hit. And I would like to know why.

Yet there are still 750 mozilla employees. The servo stuff was merged into ff already. I’m not saying it’s good that they’ve scaled down their R&D but the narrative that the C-suite have laid everyone off so they can drink more champagne on one more yacht gets tiring and obscures reasoned discussion about the lay offs.

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> The servo stuff was merged into ff already.

Really? The project was done? That is at odds to what nearly every person I follow involved with the project has had to say recently.

It's not. Just look at outstanding issues in Servo.

https://github.com/servo/servo

What Mozilla did was move few stable components to FireFox and shitcanned the rest.

On another post one of the dev teams said, although it’s not “finished”, a lot of the code has been merged into ff. It has already been useful. He even used the term “winding down”.

To me, this manifesto is just empty platitudes.

    + We support privacy
    - Yet get millions from Google to keep their search engine default. 

    + We believe in transparent community based decisions
    - Which is why we gutted several community darlings (Devtools, Servo, Wasmtime, MDN)

Without Servo, Firefox is doomed to become a cheap Chrome knock-off. Why not fire like 650/750 and just base FireFox on Chromium?

And in that case why should I use a knock-off, if I can have the real thing for free? Google controls the code, whatever tracking/control they build in is going to be hard to remove without a fork. A Fork Mozilla won't be able to afford.

No amount of writing manifestos is going to change that fact.

> Why not fire like 650/750 and just base FireFox on Chromium?

That's likely not too far behind. There might be a runway of a couple of years before that, though. I don't think they'd get rid of quite so many people at that point.

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