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I'll just leave this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring

Don't insinuate your point. State it if you have any convinction.

How do you think this invalidates or relates to the topic at hand? People can't engage either positively or negatively unless you actually make a clear point.

I'm not currently convinced you have a coherent one but I look forward to being proved wrong.

The point I'm making is that (at least as far as the UK is concerned), you can't get away with painting the right as nutters engaged in whipping up fears over nothing when there is rock solid substance that what they (the right) were saying for decades was actually true, i.e. that children were being abused by people predominantly from particular groups, and that this abuse was being deliberately ignored. And what makes the cases in the UK particularly poignant is that it was leftist concerns i.e. political correctness that motivated the cover-ups. If you were a child in the crosshairs, you absolutely did need to be afraid of the left.

That's better. You sound less like a drive-by troll now.

However you're fighting the wrong battle here. There is some merit in your arguments and the left has often been blind to valid issues due to focusing on other concerns (spending a fair chunk of the 20th century defending Soviet oppression and mass murder springs to mind)

But that's only loosely related to the article under discussion which seems a clear, inarguable example of a portion of the right that are promoting and presumably investing in theories that are utterly bonkers.

Nobody is claiming that "believing bollocks" is the exclusive preserve of either end of the political spectrum but what's going on at the moment with QAnon, Covid denial and other extreme belief systems is surely something we should all be united in trying to fight?

> inarguable example of a portion of the right that are promoting and presumably investing in theories that are utterly bonkers.

I've given you an example of something that was labelled a 'conspiracy theory' by the left that turned out to be absolutely true, and in fact even worse than suspected when the truth came out. Furthermore, it was in fact the left that was engaging in conspiracy! Apart from that it's blindingly obvious that the author is using the beliefs of a minority as a vehicle to attack the (non-wingnut) majority of the right, and to delegitimise criticism of leftism.

Don't feed the troll. This is a flamebait account. I've seen it pop up many times.

Yes but leaving shit like this unchallenged isn't healthy either.

You just don't like what I'm saying.

There’s plenty of other examples as well besides Rochdale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylesbury_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banbury_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keighley_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_child_sex_abuse_rin...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwich_sexual_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_child_sexual_exploitat...

Assuming you're a different person to the other poster, you also haven't actually told us what you think this means and how it relates to the article being discussed.

You seem to want to give the impression you're making a clear point but you seem a little cautious about explicitly stating it.

Could you save us the work of clicking through all those links and just highlight the ones where high-ranking politicians or economic/cultural elites were involved and controlling all of the others?

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