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Vice has been an absolute garbage news outlet for like the past 5 years. Post their old stuff, not this nonsense.

When I see "VICE" it triggers a kind of synesthesia and I smell garbage.

How far things have come from when I used to spend part of my weekend hunting for a copy of their free magazine in the shops along Queen St West...

You mean quality journalism like this: https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/jmkbm7/getting-wasted-on-...

"This story is over 5 years old."

I wonder when this infantile news outlet finally bites the dust.

I loved Vice for doing ridiculous fringe shit like that though. Nobody else would do it. It only went downhill when they suddenly started to pretend they’re serious now.

It went downhill when they were captured by woke college graduates in the late 2010s (similar to many left leaning news organizations)

You mean when they were bought by NewsCorp???

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/17/rupert-murdoch....

This is blatant misinformation. The article you linked says Murdoch bought a 5% share seven years ago, and Murdoch isn't News Corp, and 5% is not a buyout. According to Wikipedia[0], today his share is so small they don't even list a percentile, and Soros (the Right's bogeyman, to counterbalance yours) owns 10%, with the actual majority stake split between larger, uncontroversial owners. News Corp owns 0% of Vice Media. Fake news.

0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Media

fortunately right leaning news organizations headed by older people like fox and breitbart are always serious and high quality journalism

isn't vice headed by an alt right guy?

It was...but they parted ways several years ago.

It was founded only I think, but there was some beef with the other founder and he was bought out.

the Vice Guide to Travel episodes were pretty good, especially Liberia & North Korea.

The Hermit Kingdom was incredible - how lucky you have to to be to be invited to party with Kim and leave in one piece?

Simon Ostrovsky's documentation of the Russian invasion of Ukraine was great too.

This kind of article is exactly what made Vice awesome back in the day.

Or this wonderful gem from the german VICE division: https://www.vice.com/de/article/mg7yv4/fruehstueck-aus-der-s...

> HAUSGEMACHTER JOGHURT AUS LOKALER PRODUKTION

> Die Idee kam uns, als meine Freundin Cecilia und ich die probiotischen Eigenschaften der Vagina diskutierten.

Meine Güte.

I thought that article was both hilarious and informative.

Those seem like fun people to be around.

Doesn't help that their founder is a white supremicist

Gavin McInnes? He hasn't been involved for 12 years how would that affect today's quality of writing?

Or unless you're just trying to crowbar in a signal of your virtue?

It's relevant specifically because old Vice was more influenced by him than it is today, and the claim is that Vice was better in the past.

"Doesn't help that their founder is a white supremicist"

If this person thinks the writing was better in the past, they're unlikely to call the departing influence a "white supremicist".

"Or unless you're just trying to crowbar in a signal of your virtue?"

What is the point of saying this?

White supremacists are bad, why do you take issue with someone saying that?

Because it looks like using poor logic as a hook to express a rewardable ingroup opinion, and not anything interesting about why the writing quality has declined.

White supremacists are bad, and wrong.

What rewardable ingroup opinion? What ingroup? Every single person with a head on their shoulders should be against white supremacism.

Your reply reads the same as every reply from a far right peron. Calling everything "virtue signalling" as if people can't care about each other.

I think OP's point was that the writing was never great, I'm not sure what Mcinness's relation to Vice would be now.

Bringing in a virtuous point in irrelevant occasions is virtue signalling. By the way I can't stand people who litter, and I picked up 3 pieces of litter already today.

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