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Among other reasons, enterprises love serverless b/c it relieves them of many server maintenance costs and risks. This includes things like:

  - OS patches and emergent fixes
  - Compliance certification
  - SSH access control and auditing
  - Secret distribution
  - Log rotation and storage
  - TLS termination 
  - Configuring and testing auto-scaling policies
  - Deployment configuration (rolling deploys, blue/green deployments, connection draining, etc.)

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You don't need serverless for that. Any PaaS such as heroku provides those benefits.

I'm not really interested in having the 1,000th discussion about the definition of "serverless". The parent was wondering what the value of the paradigm is, so I provided a list of specific features that many companies consider valuable with serverless offerings.

I hope this "risk aversion" mindset starts to apply to code as well.

Can't wait for codeless, zero code, nocode, whatever name it gets called... something where normal people can build their own ideas without having meaningless discussion about tdd, frameworks and etc, nor the need to maintain codebases, ci/cd and all the jazz

It actually does:

"Low-code" is the buzzword to search for. It's been around a while now.

Of course like all the things the idea has existed a long time, but "low-code" development services seem to be increasingly popular and visible in the last couple of years, and they do seem to be getting more advanced and ergonomic.

They can do the same thing with fargate, and that’s tons easier to manage.

Fargate is considered a serverless service. Serverless generally encompasses FaaS + BaaS. Think anything whose infrastructure you can use without touching the underlying VM(s): SQS, SNS, EventBridge, RDS, Lambda, Fargate, Athena, Kinesis and so on.

Fargate is still pretty expensive.

Literally nothing in that list is unique to Serverless. There is in fact at least 2-3 ways to do that in AWS alone using VMs.

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