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'Facebook should be next.'

That can't be repeated too often either. Hopefully, next Amazon and others....

While I am not totally against spliting up Amazon (it would maybe even drive the combinede shares up, who knows?), it might be uch harder to do so. Amazon, while being dominant in eCommerce, is still a small player in overall retail and has legit competition from Alibaba and the likes. eBay is still a thing as well. As is Shopify. So Amazon could argue to be less of an anti-trust candidat purely because of that. Whether this is true or not is a different matter, so.

Google on the other hand, well I don't know about any legit compeitor in the web search field. They do have a quais duo-poly for ads together with facebook IMHO. Not saying they have to split up, but I'd expec Google to have a much harder time argueing against anti-trust charges.

And strangely enough, I don't think that this is in any way a political stunt or politically motivated. The investigations are going for quite a while now already.

I think the world would be a better place if AWS and Amazon retail were split. AWS is such a cash cow that it lets Amazon win scorched earth wars of attrition with almost anyone it wants, which is not likely to end well for the consumer in the long run.

I don't know that the legal case against Amazon is quite as clear cut though. Facebook, on the other hand...

I started to suspect a AWS / Retail split up, a voluntar one, as far back as 2017. I also assumed that the stock price of 1,000 $ at that time reflected that already. I guess I got that very, very wrong.

It is absolutely true so, that AWS is Amazon's cash cow making all the rest possible. And the rest is driving Amazon's cashflow. Pretty neat set-up, if you ask me.

Just off the top of my head, I can see three parts that Amazon should be broken into: AWS, Amazon (the store) and AmazonBasics.

So when will they go after everyone else in this index? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Store_brands

Seriously what is with that talking point and how the hell did it get people conditioned to accept that novel nonsensical standard as "the way things should be"?

It is like an algorithim was run on random complaints against Amazon after it was told to filter on "item arrived broken" after it kept just spitting out the least helpful 1 star reviews.

Amazon would seem to me like the much easier target with the sketchiness around AmazonBasics

FAANG basically.

"You and all of your competitors are a monopoly!" Am I the only one who notices that the statement is completely nonsensical bullshit?

Facebook is an Apple competitor?

Yes actually, but not in the main things they are known for. Apple pay along with the "Facebook scrip" controversy marketting which got a backlash when really it was just an extension of the existing banking system (because of course it would have to be to be useful for the goal of moving money to and from bank accounts). Both are trying to get into an online finance market. Google Wallet too.

Probably a fringe performer but they see big enough potential to run nation wide TV ads for something with very limited adoption.

The funny thing is that it addresses the one silly/paradoxical anti-competitive use of anti-trust claiming it is monopoly for a cross competitor to introduce new competition into a market because there are multiple involved in it means it is hardly a unique situation given there are at least four tech into finace crossover attempts.

How are Netflix or Apple a monopoly?

I'm very pro antitrust and I don't think Netflix is a monopoly at all. I often wonder how they will survive all the free streaming that I love (Pluto TV, Peacock, Tubi...) that is popping up on my tv every day. We cancelled long ago and don't even miss it. They have the monopoly on making crappy low production value Hallmark Channel or Lifetime quality series and movies that I don't want to watch. I might subscribe for a month when Stranger Things comes out again and then binge it and cancel again.

I like watching actual movies and documentaries and I already have Prime, which has much more of those. Which raises a question about Amazon and antitrust...

Netflix is trying to make vertical monopoly on production and distribution. It should be split and regulated, so that production companies cannot own distribution companies. It's a PITA as a consumer that I need to subscribe to a bunch of different services because all of them have exclusive content that they are using to try to win the monopoly wars. The government should just nip the war in the bud and say that you have to choose to be a producer or a distributor, but not both, and then shows will flow out to all the streaming companies, which will have to compete on service rather than selection.

Apple has monopoly dollar share in app spending.

I think people forget they have a nasty habit of buying companies and absorbing them or dismantling them all together (not unlike Google).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisit...

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