pip in virtualenv. It is solved problem.
The rest is too vocal.
I doubt that even 90% of those professional python developers who believe that python dependencies is a solved problem believe that it is solved with pip and virtualenv; the conda faction has to be bigger than 10%. Plus there's the people that think pip/venv aren't enough, but that tools on top of them plug the gaps (poetry).
But I think that the share of professional developers who see it as a solved problem at all is less than 90%. Obviously, we've all got some way of working with/around the issues, that doesn't mean that we don't feel that they exist.
conda had minor usage in the last one for building a handful of special projects mixing C++ and Python code (highly specific code in the finance industry), after build the artifacts could go into the python repository (internal pypi) and be usable with pip. Everything was down to pip at the end of the day. As a matter of fact, the guys who used and pushed for conda were also the ones pushing the hardest for pip because pip is the answer to everything.
Our data scientists like Conda - but our developers don't touch it.
99% of professional python developers think that you've pulled this statistic out of your ass!
> 99% of professional python developers think that you've pulled this statistic out of your ass!
72.6% of all statistics are made up, anyway.
I struggle to see what spending time looking at Poetry will yield in terms of any actual benefit, though I would love to be informed/educated otherwise.
I don’t expect my dev tools to be idiot proof, but they should at least try to be “I’ve been hacking for 18 hours straight and I just need to commit this last line and I can finally go to bed” proof.
That prevents you from ever doing a pip install in your root environment.
I've got about 20 different pip environments, and virtualenvwrappers (workon xxxx) makes it pretty seamless for me to hop back and forth between sessions. I'm also pretty dedicated to doing all my work in tmux windows - so my state in a half dozen virtualenvs is changed by changing my window (which I've done a workon)
I guess what I'm really interested in is, "The last three years of my life I've used virtualenv/wrappers + pip, and haven't run into any problems. What can Poetry do for me, and why should I change my work habits? Genuinely interested in using new and better tools.
I don't think I've even written a setup.py .
Obviously there's a whole world of development and deployment where these things are relevant, but there's also a massive world where nobody even understands what they are missing.