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> Userbenchmark.com is terrible and nobody should use it for anything. At least their CPU side of things is hopelessly bought & paid for by Intel (and even within the Intel lineup they give terrible & wrong advice), maybe the GPU side is better but I wouldn't count on it.

To provide some elaboration on this: Their overall CPU score used to be 30% single, 60% quad, 10% multicore. Last year around the launch of zen 2 they gave it an update. Which makes sense; the increasing ability of programs to actually scale beyond four cores means that multicore should get more importance. And so they changed the influence of multicore numbers from 10% to... 2%. Not only was it a blatant and ridiculous move to hurt the scores of AMD chips, you got results like this, an i3 beating an i9 https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/jDJP8prZywSyLPesLtrak4-970...

And there was some suspicious dropping of zen 3 scores a week ago, too, it looks like.

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The one that really made it screaming obvious is the description of the Ryzen 5 5600x still somehow recommends the slower 10600k https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/Rating/4084

And they added some "subjective" metric so even when an AMD CPU wins at every single test, the Intel one can still be ranked higher.

There's a reason they've been banned from most major subreddits. Including /r/Intel.

Why should I care about a subreddit? They are all probably moderated by the same poeple. It could be one person got offended and happens to be a mod

I don’t see that as evidence of blatant bias for Intel. The site is just aimed at helping the average consumer pick out a part, and I think the weighting makes sense.

Most applications can only make use of a few CPU-heavy threads at a time, and these systems with with 18 cores will not make any difference for the average user. In fact, the 18 core behemoth might actually feel slower for regular desktop usage since it’s clocked lower.

If you are a pro with a CPU-heavy workflow that scales well with more threads, then you probably don’t need some consumer benchmark website to tell you that you need a CPU with more cores.

But lots of things do use more than 4 cores, with games especially growing in core use over time. Even more so if you want to stream to your friends or have browsers and such open in the background. To suddenly set that to almost zero weight, when it was already a pretty low fraction, right when zen 2 came out, is clear bias.

> In fact, the 18 core behemoth might actually feel slower for regular desktop usage since it’s clocked lower.

It has a similar turbo, it won't.

The amount of processes running on a windows OS reached 'ludicrous speed' many years ago. Most of these are invisible to the user, doing things like telemetry, hardware interaction, and low level and mid level OS services.

A quick inspection of the details tab in my task manager shows around 200 processes, only half of which are browser.

And starting a web browser with one page results in around half a dozen processes

Every user is now a multi-core user.

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