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If general public even knew who to complain they would have surely yelled loudly. For now I hear non-tech people say 'Oh, our internet is slow even though we pay lot of money'

Meanwhile valley bros keep helpfully reminding me to upgrade my computer to a reasonable 2020sh.

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Alternatively, they say things like "I hate how slow ads are." It's not the ads that are slow. It's all the tracking and libraries built on top of it.

I wonder if the answer is better visualization tools? We have fairly detailed dashboards that we as developers can look at, but there is no “check engine light” version for people who just want things to “go”.

How would you make a check engine light actionable for the visitor of a website? They already notice that it's slow and their fans start spinning.

The general public likes to do things on the web other than reading minimalist hypertext. They like real-time chat and video and images and playing games in the browser. They would rather be able to do the things they like faster and more efficiently than abandon the last 20 years of technological progress.

I had real-time video chat and played browser games 15 years ago, on hardware a fraction of the power of that today.

It seems a lot of the newer generation just doesn't realise what was already possible before, and is only infatuated with inefficient reinventions.

Those things are all great and probably far better optimised than your average should-be-static site serving bloat.

The overwhelmingly vast majority of things on the World Wide Web are things that are perfectly feasible - and indeed pretty darn trivial - with minimalist hypertext.

The general public likes to do things other than reading minimal hypertext. They don't demand that we shoehorn everything into the web.

I simply disagree that this relates to bundle size. When people (I know) complain about slow internet it's typically in relation to high bandwidth streaming (Netflix, Youtube, etc...)

This is said by someone who is not a "valley bro" and often lives in rural Canada.

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