And it is worse in the poorer states, because they don't have high home values to cushion the blow to the individual taxpayer.
And it is worse in the poorer states, because they don't have high home values to cushion the blow to the individual taxpayer.
When your sector makes up like three of the five most valuable companies on the planet, we probably should be taxing it more.
And Jeff Bezos does not need more money.
It's also not like the money is never taxed. If Jeff Bezos wants to turn his AMZN shares into dollars, he'll federal capital gains on the appreciation. He pays nothing in Washington state because it has no income or capital gains tax, and that's Washington's choice. Corporate taxes are also a form of double taxation for this reason; the profits are taxed when the company makes the money, and taxed when investors realize gains.
Amazon also indirectly pays taxes in ways you're not thinking about. There's sales tax on sales, taxes on all the supplies it buys, property tax on all the land it owns, payroll tax for employees, and its employees also pay income tax (except in Washington), property tax, etc.
Taxes are actually getting collected pretty much everywhere along that chain. The usual criticism is with tax inversions, and even those mostly defer taxes, and because dividends and capital gains are taxed, I'm not convinced it makes sense to tax corporation.
Certainly, but many of the tricks involve licensing IP between subsidiaries in different tax regimes.
So create an IP tax. Declare the value of your IP and pay an annual tax on it. If you ever go to court to claim infringement, this is the maximum value you can claim.
The problem is that increasing the corporate income tax rate just doesn't provide enough revenue. Corporate income taxes are only 7% of the US government's annual tax revenue, for example. Even if we doubled the corporate income tax rate, that's still only another 7% of the total tax revenue, which is way too small to make up for the annual US budget deficit.
> Jeff Bezos does not need more money.
While I don't disagree with this, taxing the wealth of the rich also just doesn't provide enough revenue. Suppose we set a hard cap on personal wealth of $1 billion--everything over that, the government takes in tax at a rate of 100%. The net worth of the 400 richest people in the world is around $3 trillion, so we'd be taking $2.6 trillion of it. And that would fund...the US government for about 6 months. Or all 50 US states for...a little more than a year. And then the wealth is gone, and what do you do next?
In other words, all the complaining about low corporate tax rates and wealth inequality is complaining about something that, even if it were "fixed" (and fixed without depressing wealth creation, which is highly implausible), would not do much of anything about the real problem: that we expect governments to do far too much and give them far too much power. And that translates into chronic overspending and deficits, which end up being paid by the middle class, because that's the only source of revenue large enough to pay it.
Agreed. We should be ruthlessly taxing capital gains, and in general should look upon money earned without laboring for it with scorn.
Tell that to startup founders whose only income from all the work they put in on their startup is capital gains.
> Tell that to startup founders whose only income from all the work they put in on their startup is capital gains.
I think there really ought to be more of a distinction made between taxing the upside of sweat equity vs. literal capital gains (as in, the return on invested capital).
Also, startup founders should only be deferring their salary (or a portion of it), not forgoing it entirely.
For that matter, it's insane that VC fund managers only pay capital gains tax rates on carried interest and management fees. The fees are really just ordinary income plain and simple (which they get regardless of how the fund does), and while carried interest is technically a return on invested capital, it's entirely OPM and seems like a dodge that lets the manager participate in the upside of the fund with no actual skin in the game, so what's the point of taxing it at a preferential rate?
A better way to restore progressively to capital gains is to index them for inflation, and then you can tax them at ordinary income rates.
It makes sense that it's an attempt to index for inflation, although strange that there is only one cutoff (securities held for 1 year taxed the same as the ones held for 10 years); you would imagine some sort of step-down function would make more sense / track inflation more accurately (or indexing directly which is much harder).
So maybe different tax rates for 1/5/10/20 years held?
Lets have a single fair set of rates with progressivity. A rich man in the 35% tax bracket should pay 35% on their capital gains, just as a poor retiree in the 15% tax bracket should only pay 15% on capital gains.
Capital gains get a favorable treatment because we want to encourage investment that creates economic growth, but comes with risk of loss.