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They make plenty of sense for users of newer MacBooks and iPad Pros, too. Those people will be carrying USB-C to USB-C cables because that's what their MacBook and/or iPad Pro uses.

I'm not really what's contrived about the other poster's comment. If these headphones look good and sound good and have good noise cancelling, why would I only want to use them with my iPhone? I'm sure they'll sound great whether I use them with my MacBook, or iPhone, or my Dell XPS, or my Windows desktop, or my smart TV.

The lightning port isn't a deal breaker, but it can be an ergonomic annoyance. I've recently been favoring on Galaxy S9 over my newer iPhone because all of my other devices charge via USB-C and the iPhone is the odd duck that requires extra work. I have a USB-C to lighting cable so it's not that bad, but it's still extra annoyance I would rather not deal with.

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"I'm not really what's contrived about the other poster's comment."

The guy I replied to 20 days ago here on HN, talking about Apple: "Don't buy their shit. Period."

No, they were never going to buy this headset. They are not the target market. What they demand would actually be detrimental to the target market.

Of the actual target market, the majority will have no problem with it needing a lightning cable. Their iPhones use lightning. Any iPad but the newest use lightning. The AppleTV remote uses lightning. The Magic Keyboard and the Magic Mouse use lightning. It just seems to be something that a person who would have no interest in this device would see as a problem (in the same way that people who don't use the Magic Mouse are absolute certain that the charger port on the bottom is an egregious deadly fault, while actual users just enjoy a fantastic mouse and it's an utter non-issue. It's why Apple should never listen to these people).

I have a work macbook. I have a personal XPS. I have an Android phone (because I can flash my own roms).

The chargers that ship with modern devices tend to be USB-C to USB-C (including Apple's own macbook charger).

I have absolutely no desire to fit a lightning cable into my life, and I'm hardly the only person I know who has a macbook and an android phone (about half of my company of 300 falls into the exact same bucket).

I don't typically buy Apple devices because I think they're oppressively locked down, but that's not really something I care that much about for headphones.

Plus, given the whole market for decent bluetooth headphones is ridiculously price inflated anyways, Apple's price here doesn't dissuade me nearly as much as normal.

Basically - I would absolutely consider picking up a Max, but lightning is a serious knock against the product.

The promo for this headset outright state that significant functionality require an iPhone or iPad (you know, oppressively locked down and all). It is over double the price of comparable headsets.

No, there was no chance you were ever buying this headset. You may see it as legitimizing your grievances, but I don't think any reasonable person actually buys that.

You, 20 days ago, regarding Apple - "Don't buy their shit. Period."

Of the actual people who would buy this, I'd wager that 99%+ have iPhones. Being able to charge the headset with the same cable you use to charge your phone seems pretty obvious.

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