As we stand now even Signal is not safe because of the business model.
I wonder what's the model on messaging apps that will work. I don't want the OS creators to own the messaging platforms as well by virtue of subsidising it through OS/hardware.
The revenue pressure from Apple cutting FB ad revenue due to nerfing tracking has forced FB's hand. They have to monetize Whatsapp.
Federated. History has shown that any system that puts control in the hands of one entity eventually ends up bad.
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Ok, good, but you do realize that this is the most existential concern of them all?
Why does FB so aggressively pursue personal data?
For advertising. Because 'that's the business model'.
Do you think that any entity would be in that position if say, people were willing to actually pay $3/month for what seems to be very obviously a highly useful service?
Maybe, but probably not.
If people would pay for value, there at least would be considerably less incentive to have personal data.
People seem to be willing to pay Apple and AT&T through the nose, oddly, not for those creating the services themselves.
"We get what we pay for".
This is really a false narrative.
The 'sell out' was the 'sale to Facebook'.
A business is not really going to necessarily keep that kind of promise, they are going to do what's best for them - that's why they made the acquisition.
This idea that the WA founders could somehow hold Zuck to that 'promise' is fantasty. They are not naive, they knew what they were doing.
Not only did they know there was nothing they could do otherwise, but that there would be an existential pull from FB to push for data sharing that would be unavoidable.
The 'moral high ground' that the founders tried to take in public is really kind of despicable, because they knew exactly the cards in play when they sold.
If the 'promise' was to do with branding, or something secondary, but fine. But you don't sell drugs to a drug dealer with the promise that the dealer won't deal drugs.
Anyhow, we are where we are. People should fork over $1 month for chat. It would make a big difference.
1) A sale to an advertising company will result in WA data being used for Ad sales, there's no reason to believe otherwise.
2) Paid apps would be ideal for privacy, but I didn't imply that people were necessarily willing to pay for it.
The problem frankly is not 'Facebook' it's us.
We want 'all the privacy' for 'free'. If we paid a small amount, we could have privacy because there'd be an underlying supportable business model.
Apple's services can be ad free because they hide the cost in the cost of phone but that is extremely anti competitive.
A user on an iPhone will have a hard time rationalizing for Signal which says $3 per month when he looks at iMessage and that is free