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I find it ironic that many "diversity and inclusion" pundits claim that Asians are overrepresented in companies like Google and actively advocate for hiring policies that disfavor Asians but in fact the DoL has found here that they were discriminated _against_.

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> I find it ironic that many "diversity and inclusion" pundits claim that Asians are overrepresented in companies like Google and actively advocate for hiring policies that disfavor Asians but in fact the DoL has found here that they were discriminated _against_.

This is the consequence of heeding calls to Do Something based on uncontrolled aggregate statistics.

If 50% of the qualified applicants are Asian (despite being ~7% of the US population) and then your company ends up being 50% Asian, people who don't understand what's happening start yelling at you because 50% >> 7%.

If your response is to Do Something and that causes your company to be 40% Asian, the Something was plausibly some kind of proscribed discrimination, even though Asians are still quite overrepresented relative to the general population.

And so on for all of the other cases and demographics where people are caused to be angry based on misleading numbers and then the same thing happens.

Not necessarily what happened here, but it's possible to both overrepresent in hiring and also systematically underpay: Hiring a lot of workers you want to underpay is a very cheap way to do business.

It's also known as "outsourcing" if you don't mind your Indian workers still being in India. ;)

The "diversity and inclusion" pundits seem to be aware of the fact that Asians are on the outs with the grievance crowd. We can't even be sure who they're talking about here, are the Asians in question able to legally show up for work in California? It seems silly to have to ask, but that is how silly things are right now - the DoJ is currently going after SpaceX because a guy complained that he wasn't hired due to the fact that he isn't a lawful permanent resident.

It's the exact same situation seen in the University of California system. I think we're going to reach the point where Asian women in tech will no longer be counted as URM sometime this decade, just as we saw happen in the UC system.

Probably because of the very same policies in the first place, just unofficially instead.

That's because diversity initiatives are just racism packaged up in a way that's acceptable to society. Just like "separate but equal" was back in the segregation era.

Please don't take HN threads into race flamewar or any flamewar. It's not what this site is for.

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