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I don't see how any of these are deal-breakers for the viewers and if the viewers are there, the streamers aren't going anywhere. The network effect is real - it doesn't matter how good your streaming platform is if no one is using it.

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People are leaving twitch because it's so bad. Unfortunately I can't share that data with you, so I don't expect you to believe me.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree because we're not finding common ground here.

Where are they going?

Netflix? Books? Youtube?

They're giving up on streaming because they hate twitch that much.

You're talking about the streamers? As I mentioned, streaming is a tough business, it's going to have a lot of churn. In terms of viewership, there's publicly available data and it's not going down:

https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/over-27-9-billion-hour...

Yes, I am aware of the publicly available data. I'm saying that's wrong, but again I can't share my data so I don't expect you to believe me.

We're not going to agree. I'm exiting this thread.

What kind of data do you have? Do you work at one of these companies and know that the data is fudged? Do you run an analytics company? There could be some measurement errors or biases but it's virtually impossible that it's directionally incorrect when we're talking about 67% growth y/y.

It sounds like their data is "I've heard some people complaining".

But the market leader in any market always gets the most complaints.

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