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The other video that this guy posted is also worth a watch:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26519495

It's failing to safely do a very basic turn across traffic on a clear flat road with wide open view to oncoming traffic, on a clear sunny day. There's not even any weird concrete barriers, shrubbery, signage, traffic light control boxes or such blocking the view of the oncoming cars.

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That really isn’t good. I don’t like how it sits there with the wheels turned into traffic. If you were to get rear ended you would be pushed into traffic. It is much safer to sit with car and wheels straight and only start your turn when safe to proceed.

This is terrifying. I'm now convinced that the engineers at Tesla aren't just bad programmers, but bad drivers as well.

This is utterly horrifying.

Even if Tesla owners opting into this beta test are willing to put their lives on the, uh, line, I'm not sure everyone else on the road is as keen as they are to be volunteered into this test.

I'm not sure I understand how other posters are watching this video, and are concluding that the FSD system is being 'overly cautious'. To me, it looks like it's doing its best to get T-boned.

Which makes me wonder why these features are still allowed in cars in general. Having an aerospace background, I have no idea how certification of these things work for cars, but I would like to think some governing body has to sign of on this stuff. At least in Germany we have the TÜV for cars already on the road, and sometimes changing basic stuff like suspension isn't allowed. For safety reasons, which I get. On the other hand, you have half assed self driving features in production cars (not just Tesla).

It seems to me there are probably laws on the books here in the US that could regulators could use to stop this. For some reason, they all seem to be asleep at the wheel (for lack of a better phrase). I guess they’re prioritizing the company over the public.

It seems to be either overly cautious and just frozen in place, or "I'm gonna get myself t-boned", no middle ground in between.

It's doing both. It's stopping when it should be moving, and moving when it should be stopping.

This is precisely my problem, especially with the new Model S that guesses whether you want to go forward or reverse. I'm sure at least a few people will die for the sake of this "feature", and as a pedestrian I can't simply opt out of that risk by not buying a Tesla.

Agreeing with others here, this definitely isn't good. I'm curious if the car "boxes" in the bottom right view represent all of the cars it can see, or if it can see further out. Because in this case, every time it "went for it", there were no car boxes visible, which makes me believe whatever vision system it is using isn't able to see far enough to safely drive at those speeds.

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