> Furthermore, do consider that some of us were programming C and C++ and found them sub-optimal. But here we would likely venture into language wars because there are a lot of programmers like myself out there who will never subscribe under the notion of "C is fine, you are just doing it wrong".

> Not sure what you mean but okay. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Blame the carpenter, not the tools.

C or C++ isn't a real business problem domain that anyone has. Nobody's committing their budget to fix that. That's the kind of problem only held by ideologues and other unreasonable people.

My point was that people who care about fixing problems in the security domain will look to fix the biggest problems they can in the security domain. They won't look at it and say "no, I can't fix this because C/C++ is unacceptable to me."

That's someone who cares more about the tools than the problem domain. Whethor or not you think C/C++ are suitable to the problem domain of writing secure software, software will be written in C/C++ and must be secured.

Turn down work all you want though. More for the rest of us.