If China decided to take Taiwan in a small and local (and, let's be honest: extremely quick) action, there would be broad domestic support in the US for the US interfering.
If China decided to take Taiwan in a small and local (and, let's be honest: extremely quick) action, there would be broad domestic support in the US for the US interfering.
Yeah, it's really strange that negative rhetoric has been ramping up against a government that is now running full-blown ethnic concentration camps in Xinjiang, is flagrantly stomping on the democratic rights of the people of Hong Kong, and is of course still completely ignoring its own citizens' human rights. Really strange.
For the record, the US imprisons its ethnic minorities in inhumane conditions (including labor camps and forced sterilization, just like China) at a per-capita rate 17x higher than China does.
I think the disparity in public perception (in the US; I can't speak to China as I'm not there) of the two superpowers is telling.
The biggest difference at least to me is that US social media really drinks the coolaid on how human rights and liberal ideas are the main drivers behind America's political decisions, that America should be a force for good that has a responsibility to vanquish evil around the world, and that everyone naturally wants to live under America's image for the world. Chinese social media leans towards the world as a place where might makes right and ideals are just a cover for power games. The most popular posts I've seen are ones that point out American hypocrisy in their words and deeds. But more interestingly, every charitable action the US has taken towards China is portrayed as something that is ultimately self serving, and China's portrayed as a country that's been forced to accept the rules the US has imposed because of its historical weakness and is only now gaining the strength to push back against a global hegemon.
Of course, the ultimate decisions for war and peace lie with their leaders, but if you brought the populations of China and the US into the same room there would probably be a brawl in 15 minutes.
LOL!!!! We imprison people of ANY ethnicity who commit crimes. Some prisons have ways where the people there can earn wages through work, though most don't. You can maybe stretch the definition of what "labor camp" means to include that, but I wouldn't. And we DEFINITELY do not do forced sterilization rofl.
If you're going to go around spreading fake propaganda, invent some better stuff next time.
https://talkpoverty.org/2017/08/23/u-s-still-forcibly-steril...
https://www.vice.com/en/article/93578d/staggering-number-of-...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/not-just-ice-a-california-pris...
Those wages you are thinking of? Frequently they are well under one dollar per hour, sometimes as low as two cents per hour, and pay of any kind is not legally required:
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/prison-...
> We imprison people of ANY ethnicity who commit crimes.
Police and prosecutorial discretion means that this isn't true, statistically. As I mentioned, the US imprisons ethnic minorities at a rate of 17x higher than China per capita, despite the farcical claim that all citizens have equal protection under the law. If they did, the number of people of different ethnicities imprisoned would roughly match the distribution of ethnicities in US society. They do not.
So all ethnicities are the same, especially in terms of aggression and compliance, and it's law enforcement that makes all the difference?
No? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_Board_of_North_Caro... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study
None of that justifies any other country doing anything in modern day. It's like saying "Oh Germany had Nazis during WW2 so having Nazis today is okay."
> Reuters conducted polls in December 2019,[617] March 2020,[618] June 2020[619] and August 2020. The last poll showed that an increasing number of Hongkongers support the pro-democracy goals since the national security law was implemented. More than half of the respondents opposed the national security law. 70% wanted an independent commission of inquiry that looked into how the police handled the protests. 63% wanted universal suffrage. The support for amnesty of all arrested protesters rose to 50%. More than half of people still wanted Carrie Lam to resign. The number of people who opposed the pro-democracy demands went down to 19%. The majority (60%) still opposed Hong Kong independence, 20% supported the idea.[620]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_Hong_Kong_prot...
Anyway: All Chinese citizens are being denied their democratic natural rights. That's a battle that's not gonna be won anytime sokn, I recognize that. But the citizens of HK are now being denied their agreed upon, on-paper, legal democratic rights by the CCP pigs.
And do Americans take that threat seriously enough to put actual lives on the line in a conflict that would incur serious costs to the US? We spent a lot of money in the Middle East, but in terms of lives lost it hasn’t been significant.
And in terms of economic impact, it would be devastating. I don’t know if Americans are prepared to go for years without electronics, or really anything else, to enable a protracted war. The stakes would be far greater for the US. And the cost to China is coming down with their emphasis on internal consumption and building a stable self-reliant economy.
Americans don’t like China, but not enough to not use TikTok, not enough to not buy Chinese, and certainly not enough to send their friends and family to die while they live through a massive economic recession and product shortages that make covid look like a joke. And that’s assuming Americans fully understand the politics in the region and why they should even care about China invading Taiwan, which feels like a big assumption considering (the more hawkish) half of the population will tell you our election was stolen by the party currently in power.
China would not end up with TSMC following a takeover of Taiwan.