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Old site is still accessible: https://www.spacejam.com/1996/

I think my favorite part is you can download the original trailer in a crisp 160x120 and 8 fps https://www.spacejam.com/1996/cmp/jamcentral/trailerframes.h...

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Created with Adobe Premier 4.2.

  Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'spacejam.mov':
    Metadata:
      creation_time   : 1996-10-24T17:18:51.000000Z
      premiere_version: Created with Adobe Premiere 4.2
      quicktime_version: Created with QuickTime 2.0 or later
    Duration: 00:02:14.87, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 458 kb/s
      Stream #0:0(eng): Video: cinepak (cvid / 0x64697663), rgb24, 160x120, 365 kb/s, 8 fps, 30 tbr, 30 tbn, 30 tbc (default)
      Metadata:
        creation_time   : 1996-10-24T17:18:51.000000Z
        handler_name    : Apple Video Media Handler
        encoder         : Cinepak
      Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: pcm_u8 (raw  / 0x20776172), 11025 Hz, 1 channels, u8, 88 kb/s (default)
      Metadata:
        creation_time   : 1996-10-24T17:18:51.000000Z
        handler_name    : Apple Sound Media Handler

Video codec is Cinepak, which macOS doesn't support any more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinepak (Good thing there's VLC!)

Audio is raw PCM (8 bit mono audio @ 11kHz)

QuickTime wouldn't get support for the more advanced Sorenson Video and QDesign Music audio codecs until QuickTime v3.0, released in 1998.

> It's 7.5 megs, it's Quicktime, and it's worth it.

I can't say I disagree. I got substantially more entertainment downloading this and watching the potato-quality trailer than I did actually watching Space Jam.

How come my Big Sur MBP can't play it? It can play the audio, but no video.

I just loaded it with ffplay, and it worked fine.

According to ffprobe, it's just using raw PCM for the audio channel, which would explain why the audio still works.

I don't know when Quicktime stopped supporting the Cinepak codec.

Apple depricate everything, including codecs. Get VLC.

Download IINA and use it instead of QuickTime Player.

IINA and VLC are great, but I prefer QuickTime when it works, just because the scrubbing is so incredibly smooth. Are there any other players available with scrubbing as smooth as QT?

Wow that trailer brought back some BIG nostalgia, even through that epic potato quality. (I had to use VLC to play it.)

I really wonder how good-looking the trailer would be if reencoded in HEVC at the same bitrate. 7.7Mb is decent.

Very ‘Heaven’s Gate’ design vibe.

Or maybe the Heaven's Gate website had a very Space Jam design vibe.

they were web designers, after all.

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