"I thought anti-semitism was unfounded hatred of Jews? If you hate them because they did something awful, like implement apartheid, it is not anti-semitism, but perfectly justified critique of people who in particular should know better than that."
"I don't hold them collectively responsible, I hold them collectively in contempt." etc.
On one side, vogon_laureate appears to want phkemp to acknowledge that he understands that the Venn diagram of Jews and Zionists is not a circle.
On the other side, phkemp would like vogon_laureate to accept that political criticism of Israel is not automatically anti-Semitic.
Both of these seem, to me, to be somewhat reasonable points that should not be hard to agree on. What prevents this?
But given that any slight, no matter how insignificant, no matter against which part of the Venn diagram it was directed, invariably gets labeled "antisemitic", I think people like me can be excused if we express ourselves with less exacting clarity, than the people in the Venn diagram demands.
If the people in the Venn diagram think the distinctions are very important, a good place to start is to use very distinct colors.
This whole subject is a weird tangent from the original post we're discussing, but you seem on this thread to have managed to double down on what you said in 2019. That's hard to ignore.