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Yeah, I'm always amazed when I end up looking at the Arch wiki for a Debian issue, simply because the Arch wiki is more relevant and up to date.

wow thanks for calling that out. Just spent an hour browsing through it and was basically an Operating Systems refresher course. Great resource!

"graybeard forums" = ?

I'm referring to the usenet, mailing lists, various issue trackers and distro-specific forums were knowledgeable people diagnose and solve problems for others. The arch wiki has some of same diagnostics/troubleshooting content in more approachable format and kept up to date. Quite a few times it pointed me in right direction even if I don't use Arch.

ah so grey haired as in experienced people think John Maddog Hall. got it. thanks.