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It is complicated I think.

For one, I think competition, there is Kenneth Reitz' pipenv and then of course conda's environment.yml. I think pipenv lost the popularity contest but somehow lead to a situation where people wondered on which horse to bet.

Conda also takes a lot of market share esp. in the machine-learning deployments while also being not a 'perfect' tool.

Pretty sure we will see more poetry in the coming years.

Last but not least Poetry sometimes also feels like a weird tool. For example, when its dumping colourful stack traces on you in case of (invalid) inputs, etc.

If pip-compile would support dev and production requirements it would still be my way to go I think.

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I found pipenv to be far too opinionated (e.g: explicitly not supporting sections other than `dev`, because you're doing it wrong if there are any other sections).

I also found it's insistence on doing certain things reduced my flexibility. We thought it was kind of dead for a while where there were no releases for about a year.

That said, I've generally found a rise in opinionated tooling (see: black) and that frustrated me for a while. Then i realised i can just ignore it all and still be productive with my old stack if i knew what i was doing (which i do) while people still blurt their opinions elsewhere.

> I also found it's insistence on doing certain things reduced my flexibility. We thought it was kind of dead for a while where there were no releases for about a year.

It certainly was dead in that time

> If pip-compile would support dev and production requirements it would still be my way to go I think.

Can you elaborate on this? I use pip-compile development.in and pip-compile production.in and both use -r base.in for shared dependencies

what I did was

pip-compile production.in

then use the pinned production requirements and a dev.in to produce the dev environment.

Key point being that the dev environment needs to have the very same pinned versions for all packages that are part of the prod environment.

> If pip-compile would support dev and production requirements it would still be my way to go I think.

It supports as many separate requirements files as you want, if that's what you mean.

It can support what I want but then I am writing shell scripts...

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