Oh man, these “I don’t dream of labor” types are so fucking cringe, lol.

Also condescending!

A close friend of mine beat cancer as a child. Ever since then he’s dreamed of working in oncology, and is finishing school just this year. He’s very excited, and I’m happy to see his career goals coming to fruition.

Other examples abound.

I find, in my social circle anyway, the type who ask, “who dreams of careers?” are usually the type to have had cushy upbringings that afford them the ability to ignore dreaming of finding stable, well-paying careers. Let alone the mission-style careers I described earlier. Must be nice.

In any case, I’ve worked on teams in both Amazon and AWS. Have not experienced the described culture. However, I’ve only ever worked in science roles/orgs, and I hear the difference between science and software (particularly product) can be quite stark.

As others have mentioned: most variation is based on your manager and skip-level manager.

For me, I'm not quite ready to give up on the dream having a job that I actually enjoy. I'm still young, so effort I put into my career now will pay dividends for the rest of my life. Giving up the most productive hours of my day to a company is a big deal, and I'd at least like the job to be intellectually stimulating, if not financially rewarding. At this stage in my life, showing up at work just for the paychecks seems like giving up on a brighter future.

Despite ballooning tuitions, software development is still a career that people of modest means can aspire to.

That we don’t talk about it more here I think says something about how you only talk about escaping in certain company. You can’t pass for upper class if people know where you come from.

> Who are the people who still dream of careers?

Those who like the paycheck attached to a career. 1 million in stock over 5 years is a good deal.

Hi, I'm Nate. Nice to meet you.

Young ambitious people.