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That’s a bit like saying everyone will drop IPhone once USB-C is standard on other phones. It just doesn’t work like that, cars are a status symbol for a lot of people where as VCRs are pure functionality, there will be more to the decision making process than just “other charging networks catching up”.

I get your analogy but it’s not a good one

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You don't usually use other people's chargers to charge your phone. Compatibility between EV chargers would be very useful though: I've had the experience of having to carefully plan a Tesla road trip from the Bay Area to LA around the locations and distances between Tesla Supercharging stations. I can see how having, at the very least, a converter to access other charging stations would be convenient.

My friend is able to use other charging networks on their model3. I think that there is an adaptor

I think most of the discussion here is about the other way around— allowing non-Tesla vehicles access to the Superchargers.

In this case the Op was talking about arranging around super charger stations. But yeah.

The adapter is for slower charging, not CCS.

Looks like the CCS adaptor can do 350kw https://youtu.be/ZwW3UBEgyew

No, there's a Chademo adapter for Teslas in NA. I use it every week.

I charge my phones at friend's houses or in their cars all the time, though? And I don't usually keep a spare cord with me.

Teslas come standard with an adapter that allows you to plug in everywhere?

I know, because my home charger isn’t a Tesla one and yet I have use it every day on a Tesla without issue…

You can only use your adapter at slow chargers.

You can not use your adapter at high speed CCS chargers.

You can buy such chargers already and in future Tesla could easily offer official once. There is no issue in principle with fast charging a Tesla with a CCS charger.

I see. I’ve never dealt with off-brand fast chargers.

In fairness they did say the Tesla Supercharger network rather than Tesla as a brand, so it’s more like suggesting “even Apple will replace Lightning with USB-C” rather than “iPhones will go away because of USB-C”.

Tesla will not survive the weight of its stock price if the only buyers are ones who are purchasing it for the status symbol. They NEED to be part of and setting the standards.

If Apple's stock had been priced at hitting android levels of market penetration and they hit the plateau they're currently on, their board would all have been fired and the vultures would be circling.

Porsche, BMW and Land Rover would like to have a word with you.

Tesla's market cap is $658B. The COMBINED market cap of VW (Porsche parent), BMW, and Tata Motors (Land Rover parent) is roughly $233B. You are comparing Apples and Blue Whales.

Market cap has nothing to do with either sales volume or revenue. VW sells a magnitude greater number of cars than Tesla.

I actually think you proved his point because neither iPhone or Tesla are status symbols anymore. I see so many of them they are becoming mundane. I own an iPhone and could care less about the next iteration, I'll replace my iPhone when needed.

The next model of iPhone or Tesla no longer excite me, they are just a new standard of electric car, I'm not impressed by anyone who owns either like I would be if I saw a McLaren or something roll up. Well, not that I'm impressed per say, but I'm not turning heads for a Tesla like back when they first came out, but I'll always check out a super car.

I charge my iPhone exclusively with a Qi charger that is older than the USB-C spec.

Teslas are a status symbol, but they sell in volume because they also have a usable network. Given enough competitive market pressure, front-runners can and will make changes.

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