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I wonder if people have come around to the touchbar. It was almost universally derided on HN when it became a thing. Personally, I haven't, which is one of the reasons I'm glad I switched to the M1 Macbook Air which doesn't have the touchbar. Now I can change the volume and the brightness without having to look down!

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Judging by the fact the thing never made it into any other devices, I'd posit it's no runaway success.

It's a bad product. Touch controls are always a bad fit when they're not someplace you should be looking at directly.

I never used it, but I'd love to try. I think that it's a great concept, because I rarely use Fx buttons, I can't memorize them. They're useful for debuggers, but every IDE defines them differently, so I just gave up. I think that I'd love this feature and it's sad to see it gone, I'm considering buying M1 Macbook 16" and according to rumors it'll have ordinary keyboard.

Of course Esc must be a separate physical key, but they did it right in the latest revisions.

I cannot wait to see if the new MacBook Pros have options without the touchbar.

If not I’ll be specifically choosing an Air over a Pro just to keep my function keys.

Nope, it's still absolutely atrocious. My least favorite thing about my Macbook by far.

It still speaks volumes how out of touch Apple is that it got included on a device that is supposed to be for professionals.

I think the touchbar is terrible because I'm constantly fat-fingering it causing the computer to randomly switch fonts or change directories.

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