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Comment by ilogik | Hacker News Reader

holy fucking shit, so many idiots in this thread that have no idea what they're talking about.

there are plenty of reasons to hate apple. this isn't one of them

Please make your substantive points without fulminating or calling names, no matter how wrong other people are or you feel they are.

Believe me, I know how frustrating it is when nearly everyone on the internet is wrong (or you feel like they are), but comments like this don't help, they just make things worse. If you want to patiently provide correct information, in a form people can actually learn from, that's great. If you don't want to do that, not posting is also an option.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I user to come to HN for interesting discussions.

Now it's pretty much all BS.

"Apple is looking at my pictures, I'm switching to Android."

Nobody stops to think before saying something stupid.

it's 1am, and this has been discussed to death. Good night

Other people posting BS is a poor reason to post more BS. That only makes things worse.

Better options are (1) post something thoughtful and substantive, or (2) don't post.

The main concern seems to be that people are afraid that other governments can use this technology to have iPhones scan for other types of images. (The "Tank Man" photo is often given as an example)

Apple say they won't do that, but it's perfectly healthy to not trust Apple on that aspect.

But the fact that they're scanning for CSAM images doesn't change the above in any way. If they back down and stop scanning for CSAM images, that won't have any effect on the above. The governments can still pressure them to add this to their phones. Or even worse. Maybe they have.

It's like people disabling exposure notifications because they don't trust Apple. If that's the case, why do you trust the toggle to actually do anything?

You either trust Apple that they won't bow down to pressure, or you don't, in which case, buy a phone from a company that you trust more.

As someone said on a podcast recently, this isn't a technological problem, it's a government problem. The solution is to vote, not to change your mobile phone.

This is a much better comment. If you had posted it originally there would have been no need for a moderation scolding and if you post like this in the future, all will be well. Thanks!

Don't really care about HN at this point, down-vote me to hell.

My arguments seemed obvious. Yet the all the top comments are "OMG, apple is looking at my photos".

I'm not an Apple fanboy. They are doing some horrible stuff, especially for developers. For example: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/08/iphone-keyboard-...

But I think this is honestly a good thing Apple are doing with respect to CSAM. And before we get on the "slippery slope" band-wagon, read about what kind of pictures are on that database, and then get back to me.

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