* Google and Apple compete against each other, so there is no monopoly.
* Microsoft had no effective competitors.
You don't need a monopoly for antitrust, but it sure makes for a stronger case.
* Google and Apple compete against each other, so there is no monopoly.
* Microsoft had no effective competitors.
You don't need a monopoly for antitrust, but it sure makes for a stronger case.
They effectively have a monopoly over their customers from other customers and can leverage that monopoly to control their vendors.
And Google and Apple secretly working together as "one company" literally defines trust behavior:
'After another meeting between Apple and Google senior executives, notes showed that the execs agreed: "Our vision is that we work as if we are one company."'
They also conveniently had the exact same app store fee for years. Doesn't make much sense if they were actually competing with each other
I'm not disagreeing with the conclusion -- I agree that they are colluding -- but the logic isn't right.
Economists are poor because there isn't any competitive advantage. Any competently-run business of any significant size should have plenty of people able to apply basic economics. Engineers who don't learn basic econ are at a disadvantage, on the other hand.
Wow they are really bad at this then. 200-400k without even requiring a college degree is pretty wild. It’s about what my brother made as a doctor and he had an undergraduate degree, medical school, an internship, a residency program…
not sure why doctor wages are brought up, supply and demand determines prices. Google and Apple tried to artificially distort the labor market
Anecdotal, but once you get some years of Big Tech experience under your belt, I do think you become comparatively more valuable to smaller companies.
https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/03/20/704426033/anti...
>> You don't need a monopoly for antitrust, but it sure makes for a stronger case.
The realities of being a primary OS, App Store, or browser vendor today are both more significant, and more well known than in the 90s. They have financial consequences many times greater.
I don't see how you can come to an intelligible concept of monopoly, market power and such with a general, legal-friendly theory of monopoly. The logic needs to be reversed.
NEW UNDERPANTS PLAN:
0. Forget about proving a monopoly exists to strengthen your case that X is acting as a trust.
1. Use evidence that X is acting as a trust, as to make the case that monopoly exists instead.
2. ???
3. Profit.
The problem is that we don't have a step 2. What happens when markets mature into an monopoly dynamic? We need an answer, because some have.
From the article: After another meeting between Apple and Google senior executives, notes showed that the execs agreed: "Our vision is that we work as if we are one company."
As I understand it, the law sees detrimental effects on consumers.
I know because due to that incident we had to follow online formation every god damn month about antitrust. You don't have to have a "monopoly" to trigger antitrust legislation. The mere mention of "deals" or "cooperation" or "understanding" in the same conversation that involves competitor can be enough evidence to cause huge trouble.
Why aren't they getting hit hard by antitrust?
I guess the reason that megacorps can get away with even worse behavior is that the system is corrupt.
[source needed]. The only tariff change Apple ever made was ... due to a real threat of an anti-trust lawsuit. And Google followed straight away.
I can't recall any competition between both companies, they just have their own distinct market.
At least on Android you can install you own market if you're so inclined. I have yet to find an alternative app store for ios though(might be just me not knowing where to look though).
Edit: Forgot to add that when you're talking about Apple vs G I don't see it as 1 big "smartphone" market. It's 2 different ones. Apple hardware running iOS vs generic hardware running Android.
"Our vision is that we [Apple and Google] work as if we are one company."